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+one of the things we've taken away from +that is how almost overwhelmingly broad + + align:start position:0% +that is how almost overwhelmingly broad + + + align:start position:0% +that is how almost overwhelmingly broad +the concept of time in music is what do + + align:start position:0% +the concept of time in music is what do + + + align:start position:0% +the concept of time in music is what do +we mean by time uh and there there's + + align:start position:0% +we mean by time uh and there there's + + + align:start position:0% +we mean by time uh and there there's +several ways I want to look at that uh + + align:start position:0% +several ways I want to look at that uh + + + align:start position:0% +several ways I want to look at that uh +today but first I want to talk a little + + align:start position:0% +today but first I want to talk a little + + + align:start position:0% +today but first I want to talk a little +bit about the film um it is based on a + + align:start 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+attention um she rather cleverly sent a + + + align:start position:0% +attention um she rather cleverly sent a +copy of it to each member of the Senate + + align:start position:0% +copy of it to each member of the Senate + + + align:start position:0% +copy of it to each member of the Senate +and the Congress interestingly the + + align:start position:0% +and the Congress interestingly the + + + align:start position:0% +and the Congress interestingly the +Senate passed a bill following her + + align:start position:0% +Senate passed a bill following her + + + align:start position:0% +Senate passed a bill following her +recommendations but it was never passed + + align:start position:0% +recommendations but it was never passed + + + align:start position:0% +recommendations but it was never passed +by the house um however + + align:start position:0% +by the house um however + + + align:start position:0% +by the house um however +[Music] + + align:start position:0% +[Music] + + + 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+ align:start position:0% +sort of endless +republications um it in about 15 years + + align:start position:0% +republications um it in about 15 years + + + align:start position:0% +republications um it in about 15 years +ago it became the most successful Tel + + align:start position:0% +ago it became the most successful Tel + + + align:start position:0% +ago it became the most successful Tel +Nolla in Mexican history uh so Ramona is + + align:start position:0% +Nolla in Mexican history uh so Ramona is + + + align:start position:0% +Nolla in Mexican history uh so Ramona is +very much with us there are Ramona + + align:start position:0% +very much with us there are Ramona + + + align:start position:0% +very much with us there are Ramona +festivals in + + align:start position:0% +festivals in + + + align:start position:0% +festivals in +California uh and it's quite interesting + + align:start position:0% +California uh and it's quite interesting + + + align:start position:0% +California 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+Alejandro rather uh goes insane uh and + + + align:start position:0% +Alejandro rather uh goes insane uh and +we have a sort of very atonal Fugue that + + align:start position:0% +we have a sort of very atonal Fugue that + + + align:start position:0% +we have a sort of very atonal Fugue that +sort of represents the sort of + + align:start position:0% +sort of represents the sort of + + + align:start position:0% +sort of represents the sort of +disintegration of his attachment with + + align:start position:0% +disintegration of his attachment with + + + align:start position:0% +disintegration of his attachment with +reality + + align:start position:0% +reality + + + align:start position:0% +reality +um just a few other things that you + + align:start position:0% +um just a few other things that you + + + align:start position:0% +um just a few other things that you +should probably know before we we look + + align:start position:0% +should probably know before we we look + + + 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fact is a very good solid +steady fellow uh with a certain nobility + + align:start position:0% +steady fellow uh with a certain nobility + + + align:start position:0% +steady fellow uh with a certain nobility +and strength of character so I thought + + align:start position:0% +and strength of character so I thought + + + align:start position:0% +and strength of character so I thought +the cello would be the sort of right + + align:start position:0% +the cello would be the sort of right + + + align:start position:0% +the cello would be the sort of right +instrument to to represent him + + align:start position:0% +instrument to to represent him + + + align:start position:0% +instrument to to represent him +um they have their own musical ideas + + align:start position:0% +um they have their own musical ideas + + + align:start position:0% +um they have their own musical ideas +their own themes that that recur + + align:start position:0% +their own themes that that recur + + + align:start position:0% +their own themes that that recur +throughout the piece and you'll + + align:start position:0% +throughout the piece and you'll + + + align:start position:0% +throughout the piece and you'll +recognize some of them uh but I don't + + align:start position:0% +recognize some of them uh but I don't + + + align:start position:0% +recognize some of them uh but I don't +think that's sort of the most useful + + align:start position:0% +think that's sort of the most useful + + + align:start position:0% +think that's sort of the most useful +thing to talk + + align:start position:0% +thing to talk + + + align:start position:0% +thing to talk +about so that is my take on time as a + + align:start position:0% +about so that is my take on time as a + + + align:start position:0% +about so that is my take on time as a +way of indicating period now I also want + + align:start position:0% +way of indicating period now I also want + + + align:start position:0% +way of indicating period now I also want +to talk in terms of time and how time + + align:start position:0% +to talk in terms of time and how time + + + align:start position:0% +to talk in terms of time and how time +works for a composer of a film score the + + align:start position:0% +works for a composer of a film score the + + + align:start position:0% +works for a composer of a film score the +sort of technical mechanics of that but + + align:start position:0% +sort of technical mechanics of that but + + + align:start position:0% +sort of technical mechanics of that but +in fact I think what we should do first + + align:start position:0% +in fact I think what we should do first + + + align:start position:0% +in fact I think what we should do first +is play the film and we'll sort of go + + align:start position:0% +is play the film and we'll sort of go + + + align:start position:0% +is play the film and we'll sort of go +back and talk about how some of that + + align:start position:0% +back and talk about how some of that + + + align:start position:0% +back and talk about how some of that +works then finally I'd like to sort of + + align:start position:0% +works then finally I'd like to sort of + + + align:start position:0% +works then finally I'd like to sort of +talk at the very end about a few ideas + + align:start position:0% +talk at the very end about a few ideas + + + align:start position:0% +talk at the very end about a few ideas +that might tie this film in with some of + + align:start position:0% +that might tie this film in with some of + + + align:start position:0% +that might tie this film in with some of +the other things we've talked about + + align:start position:0% +the other things we've talked about + + + align:start position:0% +the other things we've talked about +particularly Steven tapscott's discuss + + align:start position:0% +particularly Steven tapscott's discuss + + + align:start position:0% +particularly Steven tapscott's discuss +of the California based uh photographer + + align:start position:0% +of the California based uh photographer + + + align:start position:0% +of the California based uh photographer +Edward uh mbridge + + align:start position:0% +Edward uh mbridge + + + align:start position:0% +Edward uh mbridge +um there's some really sort of + + align:start position:0% +um there's some really sort of + + + align:start position:0% +um there's some really sort of +interesting ties between a film made um + + align:start position:0% +interesting ties between a film made um + + + align:start position:0% +interesting ties between a film made um +you know 15 years after mybridge uh 20 + + align:start position:0% +you know 15 years after mybridge uh 20 + + + align:start position:0% +you know 15 years after mybridge uh 20 +um and we'll sort of sort of look at + + align:start position:0% +um and we'll sort of sort of look at + + + align:start position:0% +um and we'll sort of sort of look at +that a little bit but anyway I think we + + align:start position:0% +that a little bit but anyway I think we + + + align:start position:0% +that a little bit but anyway I think we +should screen the film um Let me let me + + align:start position:0% +should screen the film um Let me let me + + + align:start position:0% +should screen the film um Let me let me +just add a couple things Charles before + + align:start position:0% +just add a couple things Charles before + + + align:start position:0% +just add a couple things Charles before +before we do Charles great on giving you + + align:start position:0% +before we do Charles great on giving you + + + align:start position:0% +before we do Charles great on giving you +a lot of ideas about how music can + + align:start position:0% +a lot of ideas about how music can + + + align:start position:0% +a lot of ideas about how music can +represent the period and also characters + + align:start position:0% +represent the period and also characters + + + align:start position:0% +represent the period and also characters +uh one thing since I know we are no + + align:start position:0% +uh one thing since I know we are no + + + align:start position:0% +uh one thing since I know we are no +longer used to watching silent films + + align:start position:0% +longer used to watching silent films + + + align:start position:0% +longer used to watching silent films +abolutely um there are a couple of + + align:start position:0% +abolutely um there are a couple of + + + align:start position:0% +abolutely um there are a couple of +things first the idea of having a + + align:start position:0% +things first the idea of having a + + + align:start position:0% +things first the idea of having a +recorded score with the silent film is a + + align:start position:0% +recorded score with the silent film is a + + + align:start position:0% +recorded score with the silent film is a +modern necessity but at the at the time + + align:start position:0% +modern necessity but at the at the time + + + align:start position:0% +modern necessity but at the at the time +when these films were originally + + align:start position:0% +when these films were originally + + + align:start position:0% +when these films were originally +presented there was live music and very + + align:start position:0% +presented there was live music and very + + + align:start position:0% +presented there was live music and very +often at this period early silent per + + align:start position:0% +often at this period early silent per + + + align:start position:0% +often at this period early silent per +period it would have been a keyboard + + align:start position:0% +period it would have been a keyboard + + + align:start position:0% +period it would have been a keyboard +person a Pianist maybe a small Ensemble + + align:start position:0% +person a Pianist maybe a small Ensemble + + + align:start position:0% +person a Pianist maybe a small Ensemble +but the typical Ensemble might have been + + align:start position:0% +but the typical Ensemble might have been + + + align:start position:0% +but the typical Ensemble might have been +a trio of a piano a violin and a cello + + align:start position:0% +a trio of a piano a violin and a cello + + + align:start position:0% +a trio of a piano a violin and a cello +or a piano a violin and a clarinet + + align:start position:0% +or a piano a violin and a clarinet + + + align:start position:0% +or a piano a violin and a clarinet +something like that or a drummer the + + align:start position:0% +something like that or a drummer the + + + align:start position:0% +something like that or a drummer the +quartet idea is represented by Charles + + align:start position:0% +quartet idea is represented by Charles + + + align:start position:0% +quartet idea is represented by Charles +escore but it's an entirely + + align:start position:0% +escore but it's an entirely + + + align:start position:0% +escore but it's an entirely +unconventional modern quartet you would + + align:start position:0% +unconventional modern quartet you would + + + align:start position:0% +unconventional modern quartet you would +never have heard a piano flute violin + + align:start position:0% +never have heard a piano flute violin + + + align:start position:0% +never have heard a piano flute violin +sorry flute violin cello and harpsicord + + align:start position:0% +sorry flute violin cello and harpsicord + + + align:start position:0% +sorry flute violin cello and harpsicord +as an accompaniment to a silent film in + + align:start position:0% +as an accompaniment to a silent film in + + + align:start position:0% +as an accompaniment to a silent film in + + align:start position:0% + + + align:start position:0% +it would have been contemporary style + + align:start position:0% +it would have been contemporary style + + + align:start position:0% +it would have been contemporary style +classical ensembles that would have + + align:start position:0% +classical ensembles that would have + + + align:start position:0% +classical ensembles that would have +tended to dominate in the theaters right + + align:start position:0% +tended to dominate in the theaters right + + + align:start position:0% +tended to dominate in the theaters right +secondly Griffith was a great Pioneer + + align:start position:0% +secondly Griffith was a great Pioneer + + + align:start position:0% +secondly Griffith was a great Pioneer +absolutely and a controversial one this + + align:start position:0% +absolutely and a controversial one this + + + align:start position:0% +absolutely and a controversial one this +is very early in his career he made + + align:start position:0% +is very early in his career he made + + + align:start position:0% +is very early in his career he made +hundreds and hundreds of short films for + + align:start position:0% +hundreds and hundreds of short films for + + + align:start position:0% +hundreds and hundreds of short films for +about seven years before he moved into + + align:start position:0% +about seven years before he moved into + + + align:start position:0% +about seven years before he moved into +featurelength films and that was the + + align:start position:0% +featurelength films and that was the + + + align:start position:0% +featurelength films and that was the +history of film narrative it started + + align:start position:0% +history of film narrative it started + + + align:start position:0% +history of film narrative it started +with 8 to 10 minute narratives moved to + + align:start position:0% +with 8 to 10 minute narratives moved to + + + align:start position:0% +with 8 to 10 minute narratives moved to +6 to 20 minute narratives while we're + + align:start position:0% +6 to 20 minute narratives while we're + + + align:start position:0% +6 to 20 minute narratives while we're +called two reelers instead of one + + align:start position:0% +called two reelers instead of one + + + align:start position:0% +called two reelers instead of one +reelers gradually The Narrative length + + align:start position:0% +reelers gradually The Narrative length + + + align:start position:0% +reelers gradually The Narrative length +expanded and griffith was key to that + + align:start position:0% +expanded and griffith was key to that + + + align:start position:0% +expanded and griffith was key to that +this is actually a two reer it runs + + align:start position:0% +this is actually a two reer it runs + + + align:start position:0% +this is actually a two reer it runs +about 16 minutes at a proper projection + + align:start position:0% +about 16 minutes at a proper projection + + + align:start position:0% +about 16 minutes at a proper projection +speed but that 16 minutes is hard for us + + align:start position:0% +speed but that 16 minutes is hard for us + + + align:start position:0% +speed but that 16 minutes is hard for us +to accept because it moves at a + + align:start position:0% +to accept because it moves at a + + + align:start position:0% +to accept because it moves at a +different pace and with different + + align:start position:0% +different pace and with different + + + align:start position:0% +different pace and with different +editing and film techniques than modern + + align:start position:0% +editing and film techniques than modern + + + align:start position:0% +editing and film techniques than modern +film does sometimes it seems slower than + + align:start position:0% +film does sometimes it seems slower than + + + align:start position:0% +film does sometimes it seems slower than +necessary other times it seems choppy + + align:start position:0% +necessary other times it seems choppy + + + align:start position:0% +necessary other times it seems choppy +and too fast part of that choppiness is + + align:start position:0% +and too fast part of that choppiness is + + + align:start position:0% +and too fast part of that choppiness is +due to the fact that everybody who saw + + align:start position:0% +due to the fact that everybody who saw + + + align:start position:0% +due to the fact that everybody who saw +the film or maybe 80% of the people who + + align:start position:0% +the film or maybe 80% of the people who + + + align:start position:0% +the film or maybe 80% of the people who +saw the film or more might have known + + align:start position:0% +saw the film or more might have known + + + align:start position:0% +saw the film or more might have known +the story so they didn't need all the + + align:start position:0% +the story so they didn't need all the + + + align:start position:0% +the story so they didn't need all the +details filled in for them the + + align:start position:0% +details filled in for them the + + + align:start position:0% +details filled in for them the +connecting tissue is very much removed + + align:start position:0% +connecting tissue is very much removed + + + align:start position:0% +connecting tissue is very much removed +Griffin counts on that so that he can + + align:start position:0% +Griffin counts on that so that he can + + + align:start position:0% +Griffin counts on that so that he can +get and he wants to get right to the key + + align:start position:0% +get and he wants to get right to the key + + + align:start position:0% +get and he wants to get right to the key +moments but even for a 1910 film which + + align:start position:0% +moments but even for a 1910 film which + + + align:start position:0% +moments but even for a 1910 film which +is a very stiff kind of silent film + + align:start position:0% +is a very stiff kind of silent film + + + align:start position:0% +is a very stiff kind of silent film +making there's a dynamism here visual + + align:start position:0% +making there's a dynamism here visual + + + align:start position:0% +making there's a dynamism here visual +especially as Charles mentioned in the + + align:start position:0% +especially as Charles mentioned in the + + + align:start position:0% +especially as Charles mentioned in the +use of the locations it isn't just that + + align:start position:0% +use of the locations it isn't just that + + + align:start position:0% +use of the locations it isn't just that +he brought the cameras there but he knew + + align:start position:0% +he brought the cameras there but he knew + + + align:start position:0% +he brought the cameras there but he knew +where to put them and he loves angle + + align:start position:0% +where to put them and he loves angle + + + align:start position:0% +where to put them and he loves angle +shots he doesn't want straight on shots + + align:start position:0% +shots he doesn't want straight on shots + + + align:start position:0% +shots he doesn't want straight on shots +he wants angle shots in fact later I + + align:start position:0% +he wants angle shots in fact later I + + + align:start position:0% +he wants angle shots in fact later I +think that's a really important point + + align:start position:0% +think that's a really important point + + + align:start position:0% +think that's a really important point +and we'll come back to because he + + align:start position:0% +and we'll come back to because he + + + align:start position:0% +and we'll come back to because he +reverses some of the ideas that we had + + align:start position:0% +reverses some of the ideas that we had + + + align:start position:0% +reverses some of the ideas that we had +seen with more Bri and we'll sort of + + align:start position:0% +seen with more Bri and we'll sort of + + + align:start position:0% +seen with more Bri and we'll sort of +talk about that all right so uh here we + + align:start position:0% + + + + align:start position:0% + +go + + align:start position:0% + + + + align:start position:0% + +well probably some questions and ideas + + align:start position:0% +well probably some questions and ideas + + + align:start position:0% +well probably some questions and ideas +to 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align:start position:0% +sort of the authority on it uh but +usually they were simply either + + align:start position:0% +usually they were simply either + + + align:start position:0% +usually they were simply either +improvised or assembled from pieces that + + align:start position:0% +improvised or assembled from pieces that + + + align:start position:0% +improvised or assembled from pieces that +people knew uh and so sort of each time + + align:start position:0% +people knew uh and so sort of each time + + + align:start position:0% +people knew uh and so sort of each time +you heard the film in most cases the + + align:start position:0% +you heard the film in most cases the + + + align:start position:0% +you heard the film in most cases the +music would have been different for it + + align:start position:0% +music would have been different for it + + + align:start position:0% +music would have been different for it +again there were some published scores + + align:start position:0% +again there were some published scores + + + align:start position:0% +again there were some published scores +but those tended to come later didn't + + align:start position:0% +but those tended to come later didn't + + + align:start position:0% +but those tended to come later didn't +they and + + align:start position:0% +they and + + + align:start position:0% +they and +Bigger Productions at this point uh + + align:start position:0% +Bigger Productions at this point uh + + + align:start position:0% +Bigger Productions at this point uh +there was almost never a score for an + + align:start position:0% +there was almost never a score for an + + + align:start position:0% +there was almost never a score for an +American short film the distribution of + + align:start position:0% +American short film the distribution of + + + align:start position:0% +American short film the distribution of +a score over a large distance would have + + align:start position:0% +a score over a large distance 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align:start position:0% +another there wouldn't have been that + + + align:start position:0% +another there wouldn't have been that +many copies Publishers hadn't figured + + align:start position:0% +many copies Publishers hadn't figured + + + align:start position:0% +many copies Publishers hadn't figured +out a way yet to make scores marketable + + align:start position:0% +out a way yet to make scores marketable + + + align:start position:0% +out a way yet to make scores marketable +it wasn't the industry system was just + + align:start position:0% +it wasn't the industry system was just + + + align:start position:0% +it wasn't the industry system was just +beginning to take hold in America and + + align:start position:0% +beginning to take hold in America and + + + align:start position:0% +beginning to take hold in America and +the industry for distribution of Music + + align:start position:0% +the industry for distribution of Music + + + align:start position:0% +the industry for 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+ration but in this case it's what we +would have heard would have been very + + align:start position:0% +would have heard would have been very + + + align:start position:0% +would have heard would have been very +very different from what Charles wrote + + align:start position:0% +very different from what Charles wrote + + + align:start position:0% +very different from what Charles wrote +yeah I think the only way that I evoked + + align:start position:0% +yeah I think the only way that I evoked + + + align:start position:0% +yeah I think the only way that I evoked +that is for the the um Americans when + + align:start position:0% +that is for the the um Americans when + + + align:start position:0% +that is for the the um Americans when +they're sort of savaging everybody uh I + + align:start position:0% +they're sort of savaging everybody uh I + + + align:start position:0% +they're sort of savaging everybody uh I +use this sort of um parody version of + + align:start position:0% +use this sort of um parody version of + + + align:start position:0% +use this sort of um parody version of +Camp town + + align:start position:0% + + + + align:start position:0% + +racis uh and indeed those kinds of folk + + align:start position:0% +racis uh and indeed those kinds of folk + + + align:start position:0% +racis uh and indeed those kinds of folk +or folk likee songs I mean it's stepen + + align:start position:0% +or folk likee songs I mean it's stepen + + + align:start position:0% +or folk likee songs I mean it's stepen +Foster might very well have been in the + + align:start position:0% +Foster might very well have been in the + + + align:start position:0% +Foster might very well have been in the +repertoire of whatever pianist or small + + align:start position:0% +repertoire of whatever pianist or small + + + align:start position:0% +repertoire of whatever pianist or small +Ensemble would accompanied the film uh + + align:start position:0% +Ensemble would accompanied the 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the basic pulse is the same +throughout the whole film and I thought + + align:start position:0% +throughout the whole film and I thought + + + align:start position:0% +throughout the whole film and I thought +in this very sort of fragmentary + + align:start position:0% +in this very sort of fragmentary + + + align:start position:0% +in this very sort of fragmentary +narrative in fact that might be a bonus + + align:start position:0% +narrative in fact that might be a bonus + + + align:start position:0% +narrative in fact that might be a bonus +right that that that was all pretty much + + align:start position:0% +right that that that was all pretty much + + + align:start position:0% +right that that that was all pretty much +the same so I'll pass this around and + + align:start position:0% +the same so I'll pass this around and + + + align:start position:0% +the same so I'll pass this around and +you can sort of look + + align:start position:0% +you can sort of look + + + align:start 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using time code this is how right so + + + align:start position:0% +me using time code this is how right so +I'm watching time code the whole time + + align:start position:0% +I'm watching time code the whole time + + + align:start position:0% +I'm watching time code the whole time +this is how all films are uh this is the + + align:start position:0% +this is how all films are uh this is the + + + align:start position:0% +this is how all films are uh this is the +technology behind all film recording + + align:start position:0% +technology behind all film recording + + + align:start position:0% +technology behind all film recording +today you have a time code running right + + align:start position:0% +today you have a time code running right + + + align:start position:0% +today you have a time code running right +through the computer huge letters down + + align:start position:0% +through the computer huge letters down + + + align:start position:0% +through the computer huge letters down +here yeah yeah sorry and it goes down + + align:start position:0% +here yeah yeah sorry and it goes down + + + align:start position:0% +here yeah yeah sorry and it goes down +from hour to minute to second to frames + + align:start position:0% +from hour to minute to second to frames + + + align:start position:0% +from hour to minute to second to frames +per second and actually there's like 29 + + align:start position:0% +per second and actually there's like 29 + + + align:start position:0% +per second and actually there's like 29 +frames per second or 29 in a fraction + + align:start position:0% +frames per second or 29 in a fraction + + + align:start position:0% +frames per second or 29 in a fraction +it's a little off so it gets a little + + align:start position:0% +it's a little off so it gets a little + + + align:start position:0% +it's a little off so it gets a little +complicated and you need computer uh + + align:start position:0% +complicated and you need computer uh + + + align:start position:0% +complicated and you need computer uh +equivalency tables to convert this to + + align:start position:0% +equivalency tables to convert this to + + + align:start position:0% +equivalency tables to convert this to +musical recording time um so Charles's + + align:start position:0% +musical recording time um so Charles's + + + align:start position:0% +musical recording time um so Charles's +timings are based on those time code + + align:start position:0% +timings are based on those time code + + + align:start position:0% +timings are based on those time code +numbers in the film and when he says uh + + align:start position:0% +numbers in the film and when he says uh + + + align:start position:0% +numbers in the film and when he says uh +quarter note equals 60 what he's doing + + align:start position:0% +quarter note equals 60 what he's doing + + + align:start position:0% +quarter note equals 60 what he's doing +is making it easier for even the players + + align:start position:0% +is making it easier for even the players + + + align:start position:0% +is making it easier for even the players +to look at the screen and not pay so + + align:start position:0% +to look at the screen and not pay so + + + align:start position:0% +to look at the screen and not pay so +much attention to what's happen + + align:start position:0% +much attention to what's happen + + + align:start position:0% +much attention to what's happen +happening as to pay attention to the + + align:start position:0% +happening as to pay attention to the + + + align:start position:0% +happening as to pay attention to the +seconds ticking by because each tick of + + align:start position:0% +seconds ticking by because each tick of + + + align:start position:0% +seconds ticking by because each tick of +a second becomes a beat in their score + + align:start position:0% +a second becomes a beat in their score + + + align:start position:0% +a second becomes a beat in their score +so that's how synchronization becomes + + align:start position:0% +so that's how synchronization becomes + + + align:start position:0% +so that's how synchronization becomes +simpler if you use a multiple of 60 like + + align:start position:0% +simpler if you use a multiple of 60 like + + + align:start position:0% +simpler if you use a multiple of 60 like +90 or + + align:start position:0% +90 or + + + align:start position:0% +90 or +120 um you get a fairly easy ratio of + + align:start position:0% +120 um you get a fairly easy ratio of + + + align:start position:0% +120 um you get a fairly easy ratio of +time to work with as a as a performer + + align:start position:0% +time to work with as a as a performer + + + align:start position:0% +time to work with as a as a performer +yeah I wanted in a way a a slower beat + + align:start position:0% +yeah I wanted in a way a a slower beat + + + align:start position:0% +yeah I wanted in a way a a slower beat +uh because there's a + + align:start position:0% +uh because there's a + + + align:start position:0% +uh because there's a +tendency what's what's the metomic + + align:start position:0% +tendency what's what's the metomic + + + align:start position:0% +tendency what's what's the metomic +marking that I learned it that most most + + align:start position:0% +marking that I learned it that most most + + + align:start position:0% +marking that I learned it that most most +early cartoons were done and it's faster + + align:start position:0% +early cartoons were done and it's faster + + + align:start position:0% +early cartoons were done and it's faster +it actually 120 yeah 120 so I wanted to + + align:start position:0% +it actually 120 yeah 120 so I wanted to + + + align:start position:0% +it actually 120 yeah 120 so I wanted to +avoid this whole sense of that fast a + + align:start position:0% +avoid this whole sense of that fast a + + + align:start position:0% +avoid this whole sense of that fast a +Tempo I I 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+now the thing that was interesting is + + align:start position:0% +now the thing that was interesting is + + + align:start position:0% +now the thing that was interesting is +like I said I wanted to be incredibly + + align:start position:0% +like I said I wanted to be incredibly + + + align:start position:0% +like I said I wanted to be incredibly +specific um and that that was an + + align:start position:0% +specific um and that that was an + + + align:start position:0% +specific um and that that was an +ambitious thing and it's it's a short + + align:start position:0% +ambitious thing and it's it's a short + + + align:start position:0% +ambitious thing and it's it's a short +film it's like 14 minutes but it it took + + align:start position:0% +film it's like 14 minutes but it it took + + + align:start position:0% +film it's like 14 minutes but it it took +weeks and weeks of work I could have + + align:start position:0% +weeks and weeks of work I could have + + + align:start 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position:0% +in this Frame and it's you know 8 + + + align:start position:0% +in this Frame and it's you know 8 +minutes 33 seconds and a + + align:start position:0% +minutes 33 seconds and a + + + align:start position:0% +minutes 33 seconds and a +fraction right so I'll move it over an + + align:start position:0% +fraction right so I'll move it over an + + + align:start position:0% +fraction right so I'll move it over an +eighth note and that'll help it line up + + align:start position:0% +eighth note and that'll help it line up + + + align:start position:0% +eighth note and that'll help it line up +um so I was trying to be incredibly + + align:start position:0% +um so I was trying to be incredibly + + + align:start position:0% +um so I was trying to be incredibly +precise for + + align:start position:0% +precise for + + + align:start position:0% +precise for +me partly that's because I sort of + + align:start position:0% +me partly that's because I sort of + + + align:start position:0% +me partly that's because I sort of +looked at the film and when you look at + + align:start position:0% +looked at the film and when you look at + + + align:start position:0% +looked at the film and when you look at +a film frame by frame over and over + + align:start position:0% +a film frame by frame over and over + + + align:start position:0% +a film frame by frame over and over +again I think maybe any film becomes + + align:start position:0% +again I think maybe any film becomes + + + align:start position:0% +again I think maybe any film becomes +incredibly fascinating right uh and I + + align:start position:0% +incredibly fascinating right uh and I + + + align:start position:0% +incredibly fascinating right uh and I +just it started to feel more and more + + align:start position:0% +just it started to feel more and more + + + align:start position:0% +just it started to feel more and more +sort of important as a work of art and I + + align:start position:0% +sort of 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+ + + align:start position:0% +last concert was about that um you +Professor Harris talked about you know + + align:start position:0% +Professor Harris talked about you know + + + align:start position:0% +Professor Harris talked about you know +these multiple events happening in + + align:start position:0% +these multiple events happening in + + + align:start position:0% +these multiple events happening in +musical time in a way that they can't + + align:start position:0% +musical time in a way that they can't + + + align:start position:0% +musical time in a way that they can't +happen elsewhere and so I was really + + align:start position:0% +happen elsewhere and so I was really + + + align:start position:0% +happen elsewhere and so I was really +sort of trying to get at part of that + + align:start position:0% +sort of trying to get at part of that + + + align:start position:0% +sort of trying to get at part of that +um from yeah so so would you would you + + align:start position:0% +um from yeah so so would you would you + + + align:start position:0% +um from yeah so so would you would you +have this score performed separately + + align:start position:0% +have this score performed separately + + + align:start position:0% +have this score performed separately +from the film + + align:start position:0% +from the film + + + align:start position:0% +from the film +that's an interesting thing in fact in + + align:start position:0% +that's an interesting thing in fact in + + + align:start position:0% +that's an interesting thing in fact in +the recording studio and we used killi + + align:start position:0% +the recording studio and we used killi + + + align:start position:0% +the recording studio and we used killi +and Hall we had the big screen up and + + align:start position:0% +and Hall we had the big screen up and + + + align:start position:0% +and Hall we had the big screen up and +the film was going on behind it with + + align:start position:0% +the film was 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+afterwards might very well but it's just + + + align:start position:0% +afterwards might very well but it's just +hard for me to think of it that way I I + + align:start position:0% +hard for me to think of it that way I I + + + align:start position:0% +hard for me to think of it that way I I +would certainly if someone wanted to + + align:start position:0% +would certainly if someone wanted to + + + align:start position:0% +would certainly if someone wanted to +perform it as a score I wouldn't forbid + + align:start position:0% +perform it as a score I wouldn't forbid + + + align:start position:0% +perform it as a score I wouldn't forbid +that but I think I'd feel puzzled by it + + align:start position:0% +that but I think I'd feel puzzled by it + + + align:start position:0% +that but I think I'd feel puzzled by it +um you know so really good question yeah + + align:start position:0% +um you know so really good question yeah + + + align:start position:0% +um you know so really good 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like chops right + + + align:start position:0% +guy and it kind of like chops right +there like um I guess like when you were + + align:start position:0% +there like um I guess like when you were + + + align:start position:0% +there like um I guess like when you were +comp composing the music did you feel + + align:start position:0% +comp composing the music did you feel + + + align:start position:0% +comp composing the music did you feel +that it was like almost awkward because + + align:start position:0% +that it was like almost awkward because + + + align:start position:0% +that it was like almost awkward because +I feel like most of the time something + + align:start position:0% +I feel like most of the time something + + + align:start position:0% +I feel like most of the time something +like Fades out and it just hugely abrupt + + align:start position:0% +like Fades out and it just hugely abrupt + + + align:start position:0% +like Fades out and it just hugely abrupt +and there are 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them the ending without any +music and then show them what you did + + align:start position:0% +music and then show them what you did + + + align:start position:0% +music and then show them what you did +okay which is really really interesting + + align:start position:0% +okay which is really really interesting + + + align:start position:0% +okay which is really really interesting +okay um so let's can you set it up + + align:start position:0% +okay um so let's can you set it up + + + align:start position:0% +okay um so let's can you set it up +yeah you know while he's doing that I + + align:start position:0% +yeah you know while he's doing that I + + + align:start position:0% +yeah you know while he's doing that I +would also say the thing for me that was + + align:start position:0% +would also say the thing for me that was + + + align:start position:0% +would also say the thing for me that was +an incredible challenge as a composer is + + align:start position:0% +an incredible 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+Challenge and then I had to basically + + + align:start position:0% +Challenge and then I had to basically +imagine what it would sound like in real + + align:start position:0% +imagine what it would sound like in real + + + align:start position:0% +imagine what it would sound like in real +time right cuz to get that Precision + + align:start position:0% +time right cuz to get that Precision + + + align:start position:0% +time right cuz to get that Precision +none of it could + + align:start position:0% +none of it could + + + align:start position:0% +none of it could +be could work that way I mean I'm used + + align:start position:0% +be could work that way I mean I'm used + + + align:start position:0% +be could work that way I mean I'm used +to writing Opera and of course events + + align:start position:0% +to writing Opera and of course events + + + align:start position:0% +to writing Opera and of course events +happen when I make them happen musically + + align:start position:0% 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+maybe even a stupid idea but I was + + align:start position:0% +maybe even a stupid idea but I was + + + align:start position:0% +maybe even a stupid idea but I was +really intrigued by it or at least a + + align:start position:0% +really intrigued by it or at least a + + + align:start position:0% +really intrigued by it or at least a +difficult + + align:start position:0% + + + + align:start position:0% + +idea take a few minutes interestingly + + align:start position:0% +idea take a few minutes interestingly + + + align:start position:0% +idea take a few minutes interestingly +the copyright + + align:start position:0% +the copyright + + + align:start position:0% +the copyright +notice it's the first time that ever + + align:start position:0% +notice it's the first time that ever + + + align:start position:0% +notice it's the first time that ever +happens in a film um Griffith and the + + align:start position:0% +happens in a film um Griffith and the + + + align:start position:0% +happens in a film um Griffith and the +company he was working for paid little + + align:start position:0% +company he was working for paid little + + + align:start position:0% +company he was working for paid little +and brown company + + align:start position:0% +and brown company + + + align:start position:0% +and brown company +I believe it was + + align:start position:0% +I believe it was + + + align:start position:0% +I believe it was +$115 for adaptation rights first time in + + align:start position:0% +$115 for adaptation rights first time in + + + align:start position:0% +$115 for adaptation rights first time in +history a publisher was ever paid for + + align:start position:0% +history a publisher was ever paid for + + + align:start position:0% +history a publisher was ever paid for +rights to a movie so there's all sorts + + align:start position:0% +rights to a movie so there's all sorts + + + align:start position:0% +rights to a movie so there's all sorts +of weird reasons why this film is + + align:start position:0% +of weird reasons why this film is + + + align:start position:0% +of weird reasons why this film is +important here we've got the end all + + align:start position:0% +important here we've got the end all + + + align:start position:0% +important here we've got the end all +right so uh you will see at the end an + + align:start position:0% +right so uh you will see at the end an + + + align:start position:0% +right so uh you will see at the end an +Insignia AB in a circle that's the + + align:start position:0% +Insignia AB in a circle that's the + + + align:start position:0% +Insignia AB in a circle that's the +monogram for the production company + + align:start position:0% +monogram for the production company + + + align:start position:0% +monogram for the production company +American biograph right um do you want + + align:start position:0% +American biograph right um do you want + + + align:start position:0% +American biograph right um do you want +to explain what they're looking at um + + align:start position:0% +to explain what they're looking at um + + + align:start position:0% +to explain what they're looking at um +right so here you've got the very the + + align:start position:0% +right so here you've got the very the + + + align:start position:0% +right so here you've got the very the +the scene with Alejandro's alesandro's + + align:start position:0% +the scene with Alejandro's alesandro's + + + align:start position:0% +the scene with Alejandro's alesandro's +body um and these sort of smudge pot + + align:start position:0% +body um and these sort of smudge pot + + + align:start position:0% +body um and these sort of smudge pot +things going and Felipe comes and finds + + align:start position:0% +things going and Felipe comes and finds + + + align:start position:0% +things going and Felipe comes and finds +Ramona and he will then sort of take her + + align:start position:0% +Ramona and he will then sort of take her + + + align:start position:0% +Ramona and he will then sort of take her +off and actually in the book years later + + align:start position:0% +off and actually in the book years later + + + align:start position:0% +off and actually in the book years later +they marry they have a family they move + + align:start position:0% +they marry they have a family they move + + + align:start position:0% +they marry they have a family they move +back to Mexico it's all okay um but not + + align:start position:0% +back to Mexico it's all okay um but not + + + align:start position:0% +back to Mexico it's all okay um but not +here I'll bring it back just to the + + align:start position:0% +here I'll bring it back just to the + + + align:start position:0% +here I'll bring it back just to the +beginning of + + align:start position:0% +beginning of + + + align:start position:0% +beginning of +sequence + + align:start position:0% +sequence + + + align:start position:0% +sequence +okay + + align:start 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