nanochat-d20 Deception Behavioral SAEs
45 Sparse Autoencoders (36 original + 9 STE-validated) trained on residual stream activations from karpathy/nanochat-d20 (1.88B parameter GPT-NeoX base model with narrower hidden dimension), capturing behavioral deception signals via same-prompt temperature sampling.
Part of the cross-model deception SAE study: Solshine/deception-behavioral-saes-saelens (9 models, 348 total SAEs).
What's in This Repo
- 45 SAEs β 36 original + 9 STE-validated (
_ste_tag) - Layers: L2, L4, L8, L10, L14, L18 (original); L10, L14, L18 (STE)
- 2 architectures: TopK (k=64), JumpReLU
- 3 training conditions:
mixed,deceptive_only,honest_only - Format: SAELens/Neuronpedia-compatible (safetensors + cfg.json)
- Dimensions: d_in=1280, d_sae=5120 (4x expansion)
Research Context
This is a follow-up to "The Secret Agenda: LLMs Strategically Lie Undetected by Current Safety Tools" (arXiv:2509.20393). Same-prompt behavioral sampling: a single ambiguous scenario prompt produces both deceptive and honest completions via temperature sampling, classified by Gemini 2.5 Flash. Activations are collected at generation time from the residual stream.
Code: SolshineCode/deception-nanochat-sae-research
Key Findings β nanochat-d20
nanochat-d20 shares the same 1.88B parameter count as nanochat-d32 but uses a narrower hidden dimension (d_model=1280 vs 2048). This architectural difference has a striking effect on SAE behavior.
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| Peak layer | L14 (70% depth) |
| Peak balanced accuracy | 65.9% |
| Best SAE probe accuracy | 71.4% (d20_jumprelu_L18_deceptive_only) |
| SAEs beating raw baseline | 11/36 (31%) β SAEs help detection |
The most important finding: SAEs help rather than hurt for d20. This is the opposite of the d32 result despite the models having identical parameter counts. The best SAE (d20_jumprelu_L18_deceptive_only) achieves 71.4% β beating the 65.9% raw peak by +8.68 percentage points, with statistical significance (permutation test p=0.032). 11 of 36 SAEs beat the raw baseline at their respective layers.
PCA robustness confirms signal locality: The d20 deception signal saturates at only ~10 PCA components, compared to ~100 for d32. This means the deception-discriminative information is concentrated in far fewer directions in d20's representation space β explaining why SAE decomposition can recover the signal rather than scatter it.
Candidate deception features identified: Feature attribution analysis on d20_jumprelu_L18_deceptive_only found feature #2693 activating in 61.5% of deceptive vs 31.0% of honest completions (+30.5pp), and feature #2833 at 56.3% vs 28.0% (+28.3pp). These are among the highest per-feature differentials in the entire study.
Multi-layer ensemble: Combining SAE features from all layers (L8+L10+L14+L18, 20480 total features) achieves 74.6% β +3.2pp over the best single-layer SAE, suggesting deception representation is distributed across layers even in d20.
STE validation (9 _ste_ SAEs): Trained with the corrected Gaussian-kernel STE, 7/9 conditions show STE JumpReLU beating TopK, confirming the honest_only advantage is not a dimensionality artifact from the threshold=0 bug.
Architecture note: nanochat-d20 is a GPT-NeoX architecture with a narrower 1280-dimensional residual stream. Unlike d32, the deception signal shows a flatter layer profile (63β70% across all layers) with no sharp mid-network peak. The narrower dimension may force more concentrated encoding.
SAE Format
Each SAE lives in a subfolder named {sae_id}/ containing:
sae_weights.safetensorsβ encoder/decoder weightscfg.jsonβ SAELens-compatible config
hook_name format: blocks.{layer}.hook_resid_post
STE SAEs have _ste_ in the tag (e.g., d20_jumprelu_ste_L14_honest_only) and use the corrected threshold gradient.
Training Details
| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| Hardware | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q, 4 GB VRAM, Windows 11 Pro |
| Training time | ~400β600 seconds per SAE |
| Epochs | 300 |
| Batch size | 128 |
| Expansion factor | 4x (1280 β 5120) |
| Activations | resid_post collected during autoregressive generation |
| Training conditions | mixed, deceptive_only, honest_only |
| LLM classifier | Gemini 2.5 Flash |
Known Limitations
JumpReLU threshold not learned (original 36 SAEs): All non-STE SAEs have threshold = 0 β functionally ReLU. L0 β 50% of d_sae rather than the intended sparse regime. See STE validation note above.
STE fix (2026-04-11): 9 _ste_ tagged SAEs use the Gaussian-kernel STE (Rajamanoharan et al. 2024, arXiv:2407.14435). 7/9 STE conditions beat TopK β honest_only advantage confirmed as real.
Probe accuracy is marginal (p=0.032): The best-SAE significance is at the p<0.05 threshold. Larger sample sizes would be needed to robustly establish statistical significance across all conditions.
Loading Example
from safetensors.torch import load_file
import json, torch
sae_id = "d20_jumprelu_L18_deceptive_only"
weights = load_file(f"{sae_id}/sae_weights.safetensors")
cfg = json.load(open(f"{sae_id}/cfg.json"))
W_enc = weights["W_enc"] # shape: [1280, 5120]
W_dec = weights["W_dec"] # shape: [5120, 1280]
# cfg["training_condition"] == "deceptive_only"
# cfg["hook_name"] == "blocks.18.hook_resid_post"
print(cfg)
Usage
1. Load an SAE from this repo
from huggingface_hub import hf_hub_download
from safetensors.torch import load_file
import json
repo_id = "Solshine/deception-saes-nanochat-d20"
sae_id = "d20_jumprelu_L14_honest_only" # replace with any tag in this repo
weights_path = hf_hub_download(repo_id, f"{sae_id}/sae_weights.safetensors")
cfg_path = hf_hub_download(repo_id, f"{sae_id}/cfg.json")
with open(cfg_path) as f:
cfg = json.load(f)
# Option A β load with SAELens (β₯3.0 required for jumprelu/topk; β₯3.5 for gated)
from sae_lens import SAE
sae = SAE.from_dict(cfg)
sae.load_state_dict(load_file(weights_path))
# Option B β load manually (no SAELens dependency)
from safetensors.torch import load_file
state = load_file(weights_path)
# Keys: W_enc [1280, 5120], b_enc [5120],
# W_dec [5120, 1280], b_dec [1280], threshold [5120]
2. Hook into the model and collect residual-stream activations
These SAEs were trained on the residual stream after each transformer layer.
The hook_name field in cfg.json gives the exact HuggingFace transformers
submodule path to hook. nanochat uses GPT-2 architecture. The hook path is transformer.h.{layer} (not model.layers.{layer}).
import torch
from transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM, AutoTokenizer
model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained("karpathy/nanochat-d20")
tokenizer = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained("karpathy/nanochat-d20")
# Read hook_name from the cfg you already loaded:
# cfg["hook_name"] == "transformer.h.14" (example β varies by SAE)
hook_name = cfg["hook_name"] # e.g. "transformer.h.14"
# Navigate the submodule path and register a forward hook
import functools
submodule = functools.reduce(getattr, hook_name.split("."), model)
activations = {}
def hook_fn(module, input, output):
# Most transformer layers return (hidden_states, ...) as a tuple
h = output[0] if isinstance(output, tuple) else output
activations["resid"] = h.detach()
handle = submodule.register_forward_hook(hook_fn)
inputs = tokenizer("Your text here", return_tensors="pt")
with torch.no_grad():
model(**inputs)
handle.remove()
# activations["resid"]: [batch, seq_len, 1280]
resid = activations["resid"][:, -1, :] # last token position
3. Read feature activations
with torch.no_grad():
feature_acts = sae.encode(resid) # [batch, 5120] β sparse
# Which features fired?
active_features = feature_acts[0].nonzero(as_tuple=True)[0]
top_features = feature_acts[0].topk(10)
print("Active feature indices:", active_features.tolist())
print("Top-10 feature values:", top_features.values.tolist())
print("Top-10 feature indices:", top_features.indices.tolist())
# Reconstruct (for sanity check β should be close to resid)
reconstruction = sae.decode(feature_acts)
l2_error = (resid - reconstruction).norm(dim=-1).mean()
Caveats and known limitations
Hook names are HuggingFace transformers-style, not TransformerLens-style.
The hook_name in cfg.json (e.g. "transformer.h.14") is a submodule path in the standard
HuggingFace model. SAELens' built-in activation-collection pipeline expects
TransformerLens hook names (e.g. blocks.14.hook_resid_post). This means
SAE.from_pretrained() with automatic model running will not work β use the
manual forward-hook pattern above instead.
SAELens version requirements.
topkarchitecture: SAELens β₯ 3.0jumpreluarchitecture: SAELens β₯ 3.0gatedarchitecture: SAELens β₯ 3.5 (or load manually withstate_dict)
JumpReLU _ste_ vs standard variants.
SAEs tagged _ste_ use properly trained JumpReLU thresholds (Gaussian-kernel STE,
Rajamanoharan et al. 2024). Standard variants have
threshold=0 and are functionally ReLU (trained before the STE fix on 2026-04-11).
Both load and run identically; the _ste_ variants are sparser and more interpretable.
These SAEs detect deceptive behavior, not deceptive prompts. They were trained on response-level activations where the same prompt produced both deceptive and honest outputs. Feature activation differences reflect behavioral divergence, not prompt content. See the paper for experimental design details.
Citation
@article{thesecretagenda2025,
title={The Secret Agenda: LLMs Strategically Lie Undetected by Current Safety Tools},
author={DeLeeuw, Caleb},
journal={arXiv:2509.20393},
year={2025}
}